Grasso Makes Splash at 'Squan Council Meeting
Former Manasquan pol spars with mayor, councilman
Just when the Manasquan Borough Council thought it had seen the last of recently resigned Councilman Don Grasso, the former Republican made a splash during the public forum of the governing body's Monday work session.
With a stack of reports he drafted as chair of the council's Law and Code Committee tucked under the arm of his dark blue suit, Grasso approached the microphone before the dais and got right down to brass tacks by accusing Mayor George Dempsey of ignoring his ideas and failing to make an effort to communicate with the former councilman.
Grasso, who stepped down last month, said that Dempsey had no right to question his qualifications and that his work for a $160 million corporation was evidence he was more qualified for the job than the mayor himself.
The exchange was short-lived, however, as Dempsey asked Police Chief Elliott Correia to have a police officer escort Grasso from council chambers for being out of order. That portion of the meeting was reserved for comments pertaining only to items discussed during the work session.
But the mayor's warnings did not stop Grasso from getting in a few more shots.
"You're a joke," Grasso said before retaking his seat in the audience.
And the scuff didn't end there.
Immediately following Grasso's comments, the governing body broke for closed session and Councilman Joe Bossone stepped off the dais and took a beeline to Grasso.
Bossone accused Grasso of pointing his finger at him while at the microphone and the two soon began arguing over the price for pizzas Squan Tavern charged the borough for its annual pizza-eating contest each summer (Squan Tavern is owned by the Bossone family).
Moments later, Correia and a resident wedged themselves between the two men standing nearly nose-to-nose, which ended the quarrel without further incident.
Grasso did not return for the meeting's regular portion, when public comments and questions regarding any topic are permitted.
During his exchange with Dempsey, Grasso asked the mayor why he was against installing parking meters in the beach parking lots and accused him of not knowing how many boat slips the borough had.
"We have 122 boat slips, Mr. Mayor. I did the research. Do you know how many hours I put into this, Mr. Mayor?" Grasso said, holding up his stack of reports.
Dempsey for the most part refused to answer, but did admit that while he always read Grasso's reports, he never called him to talk about them.
"I didn't think I needed to," Dempsey said.
bayboat
8:47 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
OK have at it guys..but LEAVE SQUAN TAVERN PIZZA OUT OF IT !!!! :)
What does the price of (really good) pizza have to do with anything?
Mariann Althoff
9:32 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Yeah, why doesn't the newspaper PLAY FAIR,,,,,,,that picture was not a picture taken last evening. All it takes is an 8th grade education to understand that you are using an un flattering picture of Mr. Grasso to influence your community. Does the PAPER have ties to the Mayor? does he fund them, that they cannot voice an unbiased statement of facts? IS NJ THAT IGNORANT..........
Charlie LaPlaca
9:57 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Mariann: The photo of Mr. Grasso is stock from a professional. Aside from what you say is an unflattering photo, what exactly did we get wrong in the report? Were you at the meeting? And lastly, no, the mayor does not fund the Patch.
Veronica Lindemer
3:55 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
AN UNFLATTERING PICTURE -
Yes, Mariann and obviously not taken on the night of the event. But...This picture portrays an image of sadness, disappointment and discouragement. Maybe, it was taken after yet another one of Mr Grasso's innovative, intuitive ideas, reports, and proposals had been discarded once again, cast aside - of no value.
This picture is a vivid depiction of a pensive expression displayed on a man's face. It is very revealing and tells us a lot. Look at it - Learn. Maybe Mr LaPlaca could get a picture of the Mr Grasso that most of us know and place it next to this unflattering picture.
My3sons
10:19 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Why did my comment about squan pies disappear? don uncovered this and reported it then was intimidated and chased off? these are facts, check the meeting minutes and police reports. squan tavern "sponsors" the pizza contest yet bills the taxpayers for the pizza for more than they charge.
Charlie LaPlaca
10:27 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
I'm not sure why that happened. When did you post your original comment?
Mariann Althoff
2:16 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Just as I noticed. Because the paper is biased. It reports only its opinions.
paulie
10:39 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
It is flat out disgusting how the governing body of our town has become. Hopefully now that Grasso is gone, and Connely to follow, the council can focus on more important matters like not raising our taxes this year (like Belmar did) - Stop the spending.
Belmar Beach Bum
3:40 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Belmar increased their spending and is using its beach fund, which is against the law, and surplus to cover. I would not recommend Manasquan do that. But you are correct in suggesting the spending be curbed.
The Judge
10:47 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Grasso v. Bassone, 3 round cage match on Main Beach 4th of July weekend- no olds barred. Proceeds to charity.
My3sons
10:50 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
well maybe if those who "sponsor" events actually do so instead of billing the taxpayers for their "generosity" our expenses could be less?
The Judge
10:52 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Mayor takes on winner of Grasso v. Bassone
The Judge
11:03 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Cage fights to be followed by all council members participating in competitive eating contest- Councilperson that devours the most raw clams in 2 mins will be deemed councilperson of the decade and will get a nice bumper sticker to be proud of.
Charlie LaPlaca
12:06 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
That raw clam eating competition actually isn't such a bad idea!
Mariann Althoff
2:13 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
@Charlie,,,,,,,I am quite aware that the photo used was from stock of professional or past use by the newspaper. You avoided the issue I raised that addressed using a current picture. The choice to use an unflattering picture SHOWS BIAS. News that SHOWS BIAS is clearly THAT. BiASED NEWS. Words are mere words unless we start painting a picture with them or using a picture with them. The picture the Patch published implies its opinion. DID You NOT GET THAT????
paulie
2:27 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Kind of ironic Mariann that your argument is the Coast Star used an "unflattering" photo of "former" councilman Grasso. I personally have seen him in town, recently I might add, and I think it is a pretty accurate portrayal of how he current looks. Would you propose the Coast Star use photoshop to make him look better? Weak point.
Charlie LaPlaca
4:36 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Mariann: Unfortunately I do not agree with your opinion that the photo is unflattering or biased. But if you would like to submit your own photos of Mr. Grasso or any other public figure in town, we'd be more than happy to consider using them in future stories. And by "current" do you mean from the night of the meeting? Or just a recent photo? If the latter, the photo was taken this year. Otherwise, the night of the meeting I was chatting live from Borough Hall with readers and providing real-time updates. I wish I could, but I can't be everywhere doing everything at all times. But I sincerely appreciate your interest in the site. Thanks.
Lonestar
5:03 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Would you rather they use Don's stock publicity photo showing him as a J. Peterman clone? And Don actually picked that pathetic head shot. Or was he audtioning to be the next national model for Tiki Tan? Hey is Don tanorexic too, a tanaholic just like that pitiful Nutley mom?
My3sons
5:07 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
This looks like Don did the every night of his last meeting. Okay, he didn't get one with a smile on his face but he wasn't smiling either. The picture was obviously taken in council chambers but only people that go would know that.
The Judge
2:43 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Like where your heads at Charlie- lets do this.
The Judge
2:52 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Grasso v. Dempsey in the following:
1. Competitive eating;
2. Arm wrestling
3. One on one basketball
4. Beer Pong
5. Greco-Roman Wrestling
paulie
3:48 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Not sure I would want to see either George, or Don, in Greco-Roman wrestling attire.
My3sons
3:03 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Bossone's would be happy to "donate" the clams and then bill the town for them.
Veronica Lindemer
6:55 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
"I DIDNT THINK I NEEDED TO" That was the answer Mayor Dempsey gave to former Councilman Grasso when he asked the mayor. Did you read my report and why didnt you ever get back to me about it. Mayor Dempsey responds, "I always read your reports and I didnt get back to you because "I DIDNT THINK I NEEDED TO" UNBELIEVABLE!!! Mr Mayor, doesnt this come under your job description to read reports and proposals from governing body members? Was Mr Grasso's report in the best interest of the people of Manasquan or was it in your best interest? Please tell us, Mr Dempsey and by the way, tell us your interpretation of your job description. Thank you
Penn Cross
7:41 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Flattering photo or not, Manasquan is desperately in need of an unbiased news source. Please keep the reports unbiased.
Blake Evans
7:58 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
@Lindemer, you're out of order just like Don was, be his neighbor or not. That's the Mayor you're speaking to / at and he deserves respect. Just because your cronie choice Pat only received 13 votes doesn't mean you should disrespect any public official. Don was wrong the other night and no doubt he knows it. Why don't you show up and make your statements and you too can be escorted out by the police. As far as unbiased reporting, Charlie's article is spot on and he even key logged it with tweets during the meeting which are available right here. If you want one-sided read the coast star.
VCL
12:09 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
TO GAIN RESPECT, ONE MUST GIVE RESPECT
With all due respect to the Mayor and Council, I am simply pointing out how I perceived what happened at the meeting and the fact that the Mayor was unable to answer Mr. Grasso's questions and when he did, they were inadequate. Although, Mr Grasso appeared aggressive, he should have been able to continue with his questions.
RE: RESPECT
Perhaps, you didnt attend the prior meeting to witness Mr Grasso giving his final report. As Mr. Grasso spoke, the Mayor and other coulcil members could be seen rolling eyes and exchanging disdainful glances at each other. Those actions exhibited disgraceful and unprofessional behavior by all who were involved.
Where was the RESPECT that night. This did not go unnoticed by the audience.
As Mayor and leader, he should have set the tone.
LEADERSHIP IS A PRACTICED THING, NOT SO MUCH IN WORDS, BUT IN ATTITUDES AND ACTION. IT CANNOT BE TAUGHT, IT MUST BE LEARNED.
Mariann Althoff
10:27 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
It seems I hit a sore spot when I voiced my opinion regarding an article I happened upon about a man I know well. "Me thinks thou protest too much" ahahhahah. If you could hear yourselves from my ears,,,,,,,,,"Lindemer, you are out of order",,, hahahah WHAT? this is a trial here? And My3sons, you proved my point with your statement that only people that go would know that. (news is for those that didnt' go). And Charlie, you don't have to agree, I am glad you have alot to do, if you cant take the constructive comments, why do you have this set up to do that??? And Paulie, I have seen him too, and I have also seen heated arguements reported in the news and the photos are not similiar to a mugshot taken upon an arrest. Good luck to you all.....
Veronica Lindemer
11:30 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Mariann, you go girl. right on! Thanks
Blake Evans
11:51 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Mariann - you're wrong and you know it. The picture of Don is from Council chambers. It's not a photographer / editors job to make sure someone shaves and smiles. Veronica, you aren't so tough, and you ARE wrong, and note that I said Don was too. Go to the meeting in a couple weeks and act like he did and see where it gets you, free escort service to the parking lot I bet.
Catherine Lindemer
9:36 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
In spite of the comments made by Blake, Don was NOT escorted our of council chambers. So Blake, either start attending meetings and get the facts straight or really start reading The Patch. You really should stop your vendetta against Don, it is not becoming. By the way I wouldn't be so sure that Veronica isn't tough.
Time for you to stop being a bully.
My3sons
10:21 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Please. The view from our seats was this. Don was asked to cool it a couple of times by the Mayor. He didn't. Chief Correia went out the side door using his phone. In between, Don sat back down and the session ended. When it did, Joe Bossone came at Don telling him not to be "pointing at me." Chief came back in thru the main door and barely got between Joe and Don, as did Mr Summers. 3 on duty officers flanked him. Don followed them out, trailed by others including the Mayor. The officers walked Don down the stairs and out the door to his truck. This happened in front of pretty much everyone and the entire police force who was in the hall awaiting the upcoming swearing in ceremonies. If you report it any different than that, you either were not there, or are lying.
My3sons
10:22 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
BUT, that still doesn't address why Councilman Bossone bills us for pizza's for a contest that his business claims to sponsor.
Veronica Lindemer
11:23 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
NO FREE ESCORT SERVICE TO THE PARKING LOT
I was a very close witness, within feet away from this scene. As I left, I saw 3 policemen in the hallway. I walked down the stairs and walked to my car which was parked 2 cars away from Mr Grasso's truck. As I got into my car,I saw Mr. Grasso leaving the building. He was alone. No police escorts, no Mayor...ALONE As I slowly pulled away, I saw a woman approach Mr Grasso as he was about to get into his truck. He stopped and apoke with her. That's how it really happened, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS!!!!
Sponsrr
11:41 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
I guess the Tax Payers are the real sponsers of the Pizza Eating Contest based on the definition of a sponsor
SPONSOR:. a person or group that provides funds for an activity, esp
a. a commercial organization that pays all or part of the cost of putting on a concert, sporting event, etc.
b. a person who donates money to a charity when the person requesting the donation has performed a specified activity as part of an organized fund-raising effort
Catherine Lindemer
12:17 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
My3sons how did you manage to see Don being escorted to his truck from your seat? I was at the meeting but couldn't see the truck from where I was sitting. Both The Patch and The Coast Star reported that Don left (there was no escort to his truck). I suggest you stop getting the "facts" from you imagination.
Lonestar
1:30 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
To all you Desciples of Don open your eyes. The man has ruined his personal life, professional life and political life and now even though you hang on his every word like he's a municipal government god, don't expect us to. Don needs to get his own house in order before expecting people to listen to him about getting our borough house in order. Don showed a complete inability due to his arrogance and total lack of people skills to get anything done. He assumed he knew it all rather than asking questions and learning from others. Challenging people and belittling people rather than cooperating with people was his hallmark and style. And now he's getting what's coming to him. He respected no one so now no one's respecting him except the Don Groupies who choose to remain blind to his faults and ignorantly support him. Drink Don's Kool Aid all of you. Just don't serve it to the rest of us.
Veronica Lindemer
5:14 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Hi Lonestar, I'm sure that Mr Grasso has more than 2 disciples that support him. Maybe his other disciples chose not to make comments. Maybe only the elite have computers or maybe they are just too busy shining Don's sandals and pressing his designer robes so he makes a good impression as he enters the Temple to deliver his report to the masses. But WHO KNOWS? Maybe Don makes a cool, Kool Aid, and served over ice, it might be nice. May I pour you a glass, Lonestar? or do you wish to -Stay thirsty, my friend. Veronica Dos Equis Lindemer
Lonestar
2:05 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
$3.00 for a pizza? Ingrediants, preparation, cooking, delivery to the beach and keeping the pies warm all for $3.00 sounds cheap. I bet they break even at that price or maybe even lose money. Most places charge $3.00 for a slice. Elios frozen pizza is more than that. But this is what Don does best. Turn a fun event that the Tourism Commission operates into an imaginary scandal. Pizzagate in Don's mind. Puts him right up there with Woodward and Bernstein I guess for some of you. Don is blind with hate for another councilman so dragging him, the family name and business reputation thru the mud is fair game for Don. How ethically and morally bankrupt he is.
My3sons
2:23 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Give it up Lindemer, if you walked out into the hallway like many, or even left like others (which you claim you did) you would know. You can't say you're in your seat and can't see it, then say you're outside and did.
$3 for a pizza is cheap, but why bill the town $5? And more importantly why bill the town AT ALL if you're the "sponsor." And Mr. Lonestar aka cowboys fan aka councilman I already stated what Don did was wrong but what you've been doing isn't any better. Yes it's obvious who he doesn't like and from Monday the feeling is mutual but stay out of it and do the right thing and you'll come out on top.
Veronica Lindemer
4:43 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
My3sons, Its confusing, I understand. Cathie Lindemer and I, Veronica Lindemer have the same last name. However we are not related. If you will reread Cathie's statement, she stated that she remained in her seat which was within a few feet of this debacle.and it would have been impossible for her to see outside from her vantage point.. I was sitting next to her but I chose to leave. Passed 3 policemen in the hallway and I walked down the stairs to outside. Walked across the lot, got in my car at which point Mr Grasso who was ALONE, walked to his truck which was parked 2 cars away from me and you know the rest. Just be sure to read the names carefully because it is somewhat confusing. I sometimes use VCL but most of the time, my full name. Veroinca Lindemer Thank you.
Kevin Brkal
2:54 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
As a resident, its really appalling our council was this divided. Was the division the reason for the increase in our property taxes of 4.6%? That's the real issue that should only matter, our taxes keep going up and up with no end in sight.
Waterman
3:13 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Lonestar is correct, how can anyone admire anything that guy did or does? Coming back from his great new opportunity to make a public seen by insulting the mayor again, it seems a bit cracked....? We can only assume that the two supporters have limited contact with him or he has schmoozed them somehow. This behavior has to have plagued him throughout his career.
Catherine Lindemer
5:35 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
OK Can we get this straight. (1) I am not Veronica. (2) I only responded to certain comments to clear up the misconception that Don was escorted to his truck.
Not interested in the Kool Aid, make it wine and throw in a pizza (bill it to the council) and I"m in. Kevin is right we should be looking at the 4.6% increase in taxes. SInce we all seem to have pet peeves here is mine. Do we need a $100,000.00 Bike Path To Nowhere as proposed in the Sqaun Plaza Project?. Hope everyone attends that meeting.
Lonestar
8:06 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
@My3sons; The flawed logic you employed in reaching your erroneous decision as to who I am is comical. So quick to jump to a conclusion based only on a sports team symbol. Making assumptions based upon imagination and nothing else sounds very Grasso minded to me. Didn't the NJSP teach you better deductive reasoning skills and to not make judgements based on no evidence or even worse, false evidence? Knee jerk reactions can be damaging and dangerous. Yes you have 3 sons but they aren't Chip, Rob and Ernie. And no Uncle Charley minding the homefront either.
And I've heard two prices for the pizzas bandied about, $3 and now $5. My argument stands, that even $5 is cheap for a small pizza including ingredients, labor, energy costs and delivery. And I trust the people on Tourism to make the right decisions and not get involved in any pizza scandal or other tawdry affairs. That's something that seems to be lacking since the Grasso/Connolly regime, lack of trust in each other. Aren't those people on Tourism your friends my3sons? Sad that you've bought into that mentality and decided to besmirch the reputation of a fine family and great business both who have always supported this town. They don't deserve to be villianized over the likes of the backwash spewing from the mind of Don.
My3sons
1:36 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
"you've heard two prices?" You set and BILLED the prices. C'mon, fess up and move on. Better yet, quit claiming to sponsor something that you don't incur the costs on. Participants pay $3 to eat and you bill us taxpayers $5?? How is that sponsorship? Where does the $3 go? So those are now $8 pies? Is it really true you even take the pizza boxes back and re-use them? That is disgusting if not even against health code. Do the right thing, shut your mouth and pay us back, lets say $500x10 years so donate $5000 to the town for beautification projects. Now that would be a grand gesture! But, you can't donate the $5000 to us and then bill the taxpayers for it. Do you REALLY not understand the flaw in this concept??
Waverider
8:27 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Okay that's disgusting, they re-use the pizza boxes?
Lonestar
9:36 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
@Veronica Lindemer; you obviously missed my not so subtle reference to the Reverend Jim Jones and the 1978 Jonestown massacre of over 900 people who followed that false desciple to the death by drinking his poisoned Kool Aid.
And your entire reference to polishing Don's sandals and pressing his designer robes is just repulsive. But hey, if after a few Dos Equis beers you chose to see him as a prophet and idolize him, well you have fun with that. But maybe you should push the Dos Equis away so you can clearly see Don for what he his and not through the beer goggles you wear around him. Enjoy his Kool Aid......
Veronica Lindemer
3:53 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Hi Lonestar, No, I did not miss your subtle reference to the Jamestown tragedy. But unfortunately, you weren't clever enough to interpret my resonse as it was intended. I think they call it sarcasm. Instead of wasting everyone's time trying to distract them from the real issues, why dont you patent those beer goggles and market them and set a new trend. And maybe find someone to shine your sandals. Better yet, forget that and get involved and talk about the real issues facing this town. Please do not respond to me again. WHY? Because,
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
DON GRASSO IS GONE
LET IT REST, PLEASE
My3sons
10:03 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
You sure get touchy about "pizza gate" as you called it, don't you?
Just do the right thing. Surprise us. Bashing Don isn't anything new, we've seen you do that for years.
Lonestar
1:51 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
@my3sons; Me get touchy? No not at all. Well at least not anymore than you do at the audacity of someone defending the Bossone family name and Squan Tavern reputation over an imagined, fabricated scandal and thinks that dragging them through the mud is wrong. At least I've been consistant in as you put it "Bashing Don". I'd rather that than the hypocrisy of you bashing Don to those you feign being friends with while all the time being a proponet of his. Those same friends, some on the Tourism Commission, who you're now pointing the finger of scandal at. Honor-Duty-Fidelity but not when it comes to friendship I guess.
paulie
10:43 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
Repost at the start of this train wreck of a comment chain. I repeat:
paulie
10:39 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
It is flat out disgusting how the governing body of our town has become. Hopefully now that Grasso is gone, and Connely to follow, the council can focus on more important matters like not raising our taxes this year (like Belmar did) - Stop the spending
Blake Evans
11:13 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
Sorry Paulie, but those are unrealistic expectations. You would like order and structure in an environment where none exists. We have a very small group of Don fans who despite him having tossed out a good idea or two, once or twice, still defend the antics he engaged in. To make it worse, you have a couple councilman who won't let it go and continue to bomb him, and now his fans, versus clean up their own issues. This negative breeding ground won't help our spending or taxes because its not a focus. Other towns are capable of controlling expenditures while adding services and revenue streams. The "traditions" rule here - run some races, eat some pizza's, pop off some firecrackers and light a few fires. If someone embarrasses you, spread vile comments until they move out of town. If you don't like it, the solution is simply to move because it's not going to change.
paulie
3:29 pm on Monday, May 14, 2012
Sadly Blake you are spot on.
Catherine Lindemer
9:10 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
What a bunch of defeatists. That is exactly what council wants. Why don't you invest $2.10 and get a copy of the Budget and see where the Big Bucks are really being spent.